Post by Mohammed IbRaHim on Jan 20, 2014 21:39:19 GMT 5.5
Some Biddahs in Wahabi/salafi /ahle hadith sect
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Some Biddahs in Wahabi/salafi /ahle hadith sect
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I have mentioned them in particular ars they are the noe most vocal in accusing other muslims of biddats,m I would like to ask them proofs of followiong bidats from onlySahih and Marfu Hadiths ,nothing else
Biddat Number 1
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► offer azan of tahajud,in pakistan and saudia , Where did Aqah karim (saleh ala waalihi wasalam) or Sahabas (Ra) did this act throughout their life , And I am talking about Tahajud Azan , its a bida'h
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Biddat Number 2
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► Misyar marriage allowed by Abdul Aziz bin Baaz , where is concept of this marriage came from
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Biddat Number 3
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► The concept Allah (swt) has literal hands, leg,eye is only in a sky , etc , Where is it proved from Quran and hadiths , This aqeeda is a bidah, only ibn e taymiyah believed in this concept and was criticized by many
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Biddat Number 4
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► Saying Bismilallah befofe reading every Sura'h in Salat, where did Sahabas(Ra) read bismilAllah afer every surah
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Biddat Number 5
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► Calling Yazid Radhitallah anho(not Rah) and believing him to be a Salaf, Which clasical scholar,Sahabi (ra) called him a Salaf,Sahabi (ra) or Radhitallah anho, its a bidah too.Dr zakir naik who follows saWahabi school does it.
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Biddat Number 6
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►Reading Ghayba salat e Janaza without the dead body infront , Prophet (saw) read it for Hadrat Najashi (Ra) after that no one in history of Islam, Sahabas (ra),Salafs read Salat e Janaza like this, kindly show me proof of this act from any other source
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Biddat Number 7
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► Raising Hands in Witr Salat for reading Dua and muktadi at the back say amin amin, show mejust one proof of this bidah
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Biddat Number 8
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► Raising finger constantly (again and aggain) during during attahiyyat in salah , kindly let me know which hadiths states to raise finger again and aggain during every sala'h
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Biddat Number 9
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► during salat for the dead ,imam read the salat with a loud voice and the people standing behind him say amin amin,aloudly,continuously,this ia a bidaat
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Biddat Number 10
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► Following Saudia during Eids and Ramadhan occasions, Throughout history Prophet (salehlalawaalihi wasalam) ,Sahabas (Ra) and Salafs (rah) have followed local moon not a moon 5000 miles away, now show me proof for it
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Biddat Number 11
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► 8 rakat tarawih (not tahajud salah) is a biddat having no proof from any Hadith or Salaf, nor did muslims throughout history ever performed 8 rakat tarawih in ramazan, but 20 rakat , now show me which hadiths proofs it , I am asking about Tarawih not Tahajud
Biddat Number 12
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► Congregating people behind one Imam to pray Salat al Tahajjud after Salat Al Tarawih, in the two Holy Mosques and other mosques.
[ biddat practiced by ******* lovers ]
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Biddat Number 13
► Reciting the Prayer of Completion of the Quran in Salat al Tarawih and also in Salat al Tahajjud
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Biddat Number 14
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► Designating the 27th night of Ramadan to complete reading the entire Quran in the two Holy Mosques in Saudia
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Biddat Number 15
► A caller saying, after Salat al Tarawih, in the Qiyam prayer, May Allah reward you
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► Is it proved from any hadith that Rafayadein was done by Prophet (saw) throughout his life , not even a single sahih hadith exists but muslims perform it and have this aqeeda.Remember I am asking about proof that if was performed through his life not the act,but the beliefs
Proofs of abrogation of Rafulyadein from 40 + hadiths
qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=504&CATE=2
[bidah in ahle hadith sect]
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Biddat Number 17
►During salat putting their hand on the chest,this is a biddatt,and no sahih hadith is present to prove this point,[bidah by ahle hadith muslim ]
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Biddat Number 18
►during salat putting their one hand on another and hold their ankles,this is a biddat,Prophet MUHAMMAD saw never did it [done by Ahle hadith muslims ]
Biddat Number 19
To offer salat without wearing a cap or covering the head has become a norm, kindly proof that offering salah without covering the head is proved from Prophet (saleh ala waalihi wasalam
Biddat Number 20
During offering salat the legs are put apart at big distances usually,which is about 3-4 hand spam, kindly show proofs of this bidat from Quran anf sahih marfu hadiths only.
Biddat Number 21
Using the word Salafi to represent a sect ,although wahabis have never said its haram but prefer to usedthe word ahle sunnah wrongly for it, kindly show proof from Sahih hadith wherre did Prophet (صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) called any group as a salafi which will emerge during end of times.
Biddat Number 22
Removing parts and doing forgery in Riyad us saleheen, imam bukhari;s al adab al mufrab, calling hadiths sahih termed by classical scholars as daeef and removing chapters and pages from books of classical scholars are bidats, kindly show permission of these acts.
www.livingislam.org/n/slfm_e.html
www.livingislam.org/trs_e.html
www.livingislam.org/alb_e.html
www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/al50errs.html
^^^ proofs of forgeries
Biddat Number 23
Sheikh ul islam of wahabi sect Ibn Taymiyya divided Tawheed into two parts?
namely tawh.îd al-rubûbiyya and tawh.îd al-ulûhiyya, respectively, Oneness of Lordship and Oneness ofGod.
Did the Prophet (Peace be upon him) or Sahaba divide tawhid into these parts, and did they name it?many more bidahs
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Action # 24 : Done by ghair muqalids with no proof from a single hadith,
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The issue of eating a Buffalo and drinking its milk is not proved from a single sahih hadith , Ghair muqalids do taqleed of fiqh here in this issue which is no where found in hadiths. Why do they follow Imams [rah] here ?
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Action # 25 : Done by ghair muqalids with no proof from a single hadith,
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Action # 26 : Done by ghair muqalids with no proof from a single hadith,
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Action # 27 :Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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Raising hands during Wit'r Salah when dua e qunoot is said , This is no where proved from any hadith, Ghair muqalids follow Imam Shafi [rah] here and do his taqled against hadiths again.
Why to follow a fiqh here if its not proved from Sahih hadith or even a mawdo hadith ?
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Action # 28 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith
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Again in salah saying Sana'h and Tawooz silently is a fiqh issue, Ghair muqalids do taqleed of Imams [rah] here,
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Action # 29: Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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The action of saying Takbeer e Tahrima loudly in salah and muqtadis should say it silently is no where present in any hadith. Ghair muqalids again follow a fiqh and Imams [rah] here, or should I say follow them without it being in the hadith even
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Action # 30 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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In salah Imam says Salam alound in the end and muqtadis should say it silently is no where present in any hadith. Ghair muqalids again follow a fiqh and Imams [rah] here, or should I say follow them without it being in the hadith even
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Action # 31 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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The Tasbehaats of Rukho Sajda should be read silently, this again is derived from fiqhs of ahlus sunnah, Ghair muqalids [salafis] follow a fiqh here again, and interrestingly this isn't proved from a single hadith too, Why do shirk again if act is not proved from hadiths ?
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Action # 32: Done by ghair muqalids against hadiths in taqlid of four imams [rah]
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The sunnah salah is read alone not in a jammah behind imam, This act is again a fiqh issue, Ghair muqalids follow a fiqh on this issue, there is no hadith regarding this issue too, Again following Imams [rah] in an act not proved from hadiths.
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Action # 33 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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In Salah of fajr , magrib , Esa the muqtadi saying ameen loudly and not saying it in Zuhr salah is again not in any hadith. This is practised by ghair muqalids and they again follow fiqh on this issue
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Action # 34 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith
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The issue of whether a salah is valid or not if a muslim fails to read Sana'h and Tawooz in salah, this again is not present in any hadith its an issue of Fiqh. Ghair muqalids follow an Imam [rah] in this case as well inspite of the fact that its no where in any hadith.
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Action # 35 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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Where should the hands be places during Two sajahs [prostrations] in a salah. This is no where proved or found in any hadith, Ghair muqalids like Muqalids of Ahlus sunnah do Taqlid of imams [rah] on this issue in salah as well.
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Action # 36 : Done by ghair muqalids against hadiths in taqlid of four imams [rah]
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The conditions of making a salah valid which ghair muqalids follow blindly is not present in a single hadith. They copied it from Hanafi fiqh and do taqlid of Hanafi fiqh on this issue even if its not in a single hadith. Why isn't this shirk for them now ?
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Action # 37 :Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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When Ghair muqalids make niyah/intentions of salah this is found in not a single hadith. THey follow fiqhs of ahlus sunnah again on this issue and do taqlid of Imams [rah]. No where its in any hadith why they do such an act if its not proved from hadith ? isn't it shirk as well
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Action # 38 :Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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The arrangement in Janaza Salah practised by Ghair muqalids is against no where found in any hadith.
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Which means after first Takbeer to read
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► Sana'h
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► Taooz
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► Tasmiya
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► Fatiha than next Rakah
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After second Takbeer to read Durood e Ibrahimi
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After third Takbeer to read 12-13 Duas together , This way of offering Janaza Salah is proved from no sahih hadith . Why do ghair muqalids offer janaza salah like this ,
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Action # 39 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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Not to make Dua after reading Farz Salah which is done by ghair muqalids is a new innovation of modern times, its no where proved from a single Sahih or even mawdo hadith
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Action # 40 : Done by ghair muqalids/wahabis/salafis with no proof from a single hadith,
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during salat putting their one hand on another and hold their elbows,this is a biddat,Prophet MUHAMMAD saw never did it, I am talking about Elbows not forearms
Now a few in Deoband School of thought
deoband Bidah number 1
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► Going out for 3 day Chilla
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deoband Bidah number 2
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► Going out for 4 months
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deoband Bidah number 3
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► Going out for 40 days
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deoband Bidah number 4
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► Specifying the last weekend of month for 3 days chilla
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deoband Bidah number 5
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► Specifying a special day for weekly Ghast
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deoband Bidah number 6
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► Weekly Ghast
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deoband Bidah number 7
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► Taking three people in the weekly Ghast
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deoband Bidah number 9
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► Deginating an Ameer for the weekly Ghast
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deoband Bidah number 10
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► Deginating an Ameer for the Siraoza or chila
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deoband Bidah number 11
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► Doing Irada(Niyah) in advance before going to Chilla,siroza etc
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deoband Bidah number 12
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► Designating one day of a week for weekly Biyan , Called Shab e Jumma, or some times on Thursdays and saturdays.
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deoband Bidah number 13
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► Salana Ijtima once a year at Raiwind is a bidah
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deoband Bidah number 14
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► Specifying fajr and specific times of the day to have daily mashwarah among various members of the group.
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deoband Bidah number 15
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► Making Tashkeel and going out under one ameer
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deoband Bidah number 16
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► Preaching only to muslims, I know some here in Canada, they never ever went to a non muslim but during their weekly Ghast do visit me and ask me to act on Shariah , Nothing is wrong in it I agree, But who deserves time first muslim or non muslim ?
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First answer above, remember not from ijhtihad of imams [rah] but only sahih and marfu hadiths,You do know defination of a bidah right ?
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Some Biddah in different Sects and
Ummah of Prophet (saw)
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► 3 days,40 days, Shab e Juma, Annual Ijtimah every year, Going on Ghast one day every week are all biddahs, Salafs or classical scholars never did it, [some bidahs in deoband schools]
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► Every Muslim child is taught Imaan-e-Mujmal and Imaan-e-Mufassal whereas no such categories or names for Imaan were in practice in the age of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or the three blessed generations after him.(*)[bidah in almost all muslim schools ]
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►These six Kalimahs, their enumeration and their sequence that, this is the first Kalimah, this the second, etc. are all Bid'ats which were not there in the commencing period of Islam. [bidah in almost all muslim schools ]
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►To divide the Holy Quran into thirty Paras (sections) and to divide the Paras into Rukus, to put the I'raab (expressions such as Zabbar, Zer, Pesh) in the Holy Quran and to have the Holy Book printed by offset in the press are Bid'ats which could not be traced in the commencing era of Islam. [bidah in all muslim schools ]
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►To collect the Hadith in book form and state the chain or narrators and to characterise the Hadiths by saying this is Sahih, this is Hassan or Da'if, Mu'addaal or Mudallas, etc. and to establish the commands with the help ofHadith such as Makruh, Mustahab, etc. are all appreciable Bid'ats which were not in practice in the blessed age of Rasulullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).[bidah all muslim schools ]
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►PRINCIPLES OF HADITH (USUL-E-HADITH) is a biddah in itself.[bidah all muslim schools ]
►Bukhari,muslim,trimdhi,abu dawood, all books of hadith which we consider sahih weren't compiled by Prophet (Saw), making books and following them as way of Prophet (saw) is a bidah itself ,it was never done by salafs but gathered by later classical scholars.[bidah all muslim schools ]
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►Branch of Fiqh is biddah Now a days all the matters in our daily life depend upon this knowledge because it contains the rules and commands for everything which may come across our lives, but this field of knowledge also is Bid'at Hasana.[bidah all muslim schools ]
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►Prayer for fasting is biddah , At the time of breaking fast (Iftaar) to say the Du'a: "O Allah, for Thee have I Fasted and in Thee I believe and upon Thee I trust and with the food given by Thee I open my fast" and to intend for fasting by saying this Du'a audibly at the time of Sehri: "O Allah, I intend to fast for Thy sake tomorrow" are all Bid'at Hasana.[bidah all muslim schools ]
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►Construction of Madressas [bidah all muslim schools ]
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►Terms like Alime E din,Mufti used for religious scholars are all biddah also.[bidah all muslim schools ]
These all are bidahs in religion and cannot be proved from Quran and Sahih marfu hadiths, most of them can't be proved from even a Daeef or Mawdo [fabricated hadith] mentioned above .