Post by Mohammed Aarif Waghoo on Feb 3, 2014 13:23:47 GMT 5.5
THE SALAFI IQ TEST
As we have already agreed upon in former discussions, we [The Wahhabi Threat team and supporters] and the Wahhabis both claim to take our understanding of this religion not only from the Qur’an and the Sunnah, but also the understanding of the first three generations and the well-known revivers of the deen that inherited the Prophetic knowledge after them and revived it throughout every century.
[Please see the article, THE TOUCHSTONE - The Guide to the Saved Sect]
We have compiled a list of most of these well-known revivers. Ibn Katheer Rahimahullah is of the opinion that many revivers can appear in one century. He writes in his al-Bidaayah wa an-Nihayah [tareekh al-Islam]:
“Every group says that their Imam is being referred to in this Hadeeth. Yet it appears, and Allah knows best, that it is comprehensive of a group of scholars from every group and from every branch of knowledge — such as Tafseer, Hadeeth, Fiqh, Arabic Grammar, the Arabic language in general, and other branches as well. And Allah knows best.”
Thus we have compiled this IQ test for the Salafi to complete, and these are very simple, but yet, fundamental questions, and at the yet of this simple excercise the Salafi can truly determine whether he is truly on the right path or the wrong path.
We will first ask some very important questions relating to the widely known revivers from the scholars who are the greatest experts in Tafseer. All the Salafi has to do is answer very honestly to get in return, a humble honest result. Yet before we do this excercise, please note the list of scholars is also after the questions, so when a certain scholar does not fit the Salafi criteria of being upon the “creed of the Salafiyyah”, the Salafi partaking in this exercise will need to cross that scholars name out.
We know that
a. Salafis are against tafweed
b. Salafis are against taweel
c. Salafis claim to know the actual meanings of Allah’s attributes
thus, we are going to go through the following questions according to the given criteria, ticking yes or no as we go along:
THE SCHOLARS OF TAFSEER
Q1 Did Ibn Abbas…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q2 Did Mujaahid…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q3 Did Qataadah…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q4 Did Imaam Malik…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q5 Did Imaam ash-Shaafi…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q6 Did Imaam Ahmad b. Hanbal…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q7 Did Imaam Barbaahaari…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q8 Did Ibn Jareer at-Tabari…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q9 Did Imaam Qurtubi …
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q10 Imaam Abdur Rahmaan al-Jawzi …
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q11 Did Imaam Muwaffaq ud-Deen Ibn Qudaamah al-Maqdasi…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q12 Did Ibn Katheer…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q13 Did Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q14 Did Imaam as-Suyuti …
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Let us now look at the following list and see if there’s any scholars left for the Salafi to depend on:
Ibn Abbas
Mujaahid
Qataadah
Imaam Malik
Imaam ash-Shaafi
Imaam Ahmad b. Hanbal
Imaam Barbaahaari
Ibn Jareer at-Tabari
Imaam Qurtubi
Imaam Abdur Rahmaan al-Jawzi
Imaam Muwaffaq ud-Deen Ibn Qudaamah al-Maqdasi
Ibn Katheer
Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali
Imaam as-Suyuti
Do you have any scholars left?
As we have already agreed upon in former discussions, we [The Wahhabi Threat team and supporters] and the Wahhabis both claim to take our understanding of this religion not only from the Qur’an and the Sunnah, but also the understanding of the first three generations and the well-known revivers of the deen that inherited the Prophetic knowledge after them and revived it throughout every century.
[Please see the article, THE TOUCHSTONE - The Guide to the Saved Sect]
We have compiled a list of most of these well-known revivers. Ibn Katheer Rahimahullah is of the opinion that many revivers can appear in one century. He writes in his al-Bidaayah wa an-Nihayah [tareekh al-Islam]:
“Every group says that their Imam is being referred to in this Hadeeth. Yet it appears, and Allah knows best, that it is comprehensive of a group of scholars from every group and from every branch of knowledge — such as Tafseer, Hadeeth, Fiqh, Arabic Grammar, the Arabic language in general, and other branches as well. And Allah knows best.”
Thus we have compiled this IQ test for the Salafi to complete, and these are very simple, but yet, fundamental questions, and at the yet of this simple excercise the Salafi can truly determine whether he is truly on the right path or the wrong path.
We will first ask some very important questions relating to the widely known revivers from the scholars who are the greatest experts in Tafseer. All the Salafi has to do is answer very honestly to get in return, a humble honest result. Yet before we do this excercise, please note the list of scholars is also after the questions, so when a certain scholar does not fit the Salafi criteria of being upon the “creed of the Salafiyyah”, the Salafi partaking in this exercise will need to cross that scholars name out.
We know that
a. Salafis are against tafweed
b. Salafis are against taweel
c. Salafis claim to know the actual meanings of Allah’s attributes
thus, we are going to go through the following questions according to the given criteria, ticking yes or no as we go along:
THE SCHOLARS OF TAFSEER
Q1 Did Ibn Abbas…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q2 Did Mujaahid…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q3 Did Qataadah…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q4 Did Imaam Malik…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q5 Did Imaam ash-Shaafi…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q6 Did Imaam Ahmad b. Hanbal…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q7 Did Imaam Barbaahaari…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q8 Did Ibn Jareer at-Tabari…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q9 Did Imaam Qurtubi …
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q10 Imaam Abdur Rahmaan al-Jawzi …
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q11 Did Imaam Muwaffaq ud-Deen Ibn Qudaamah al-Maqdasi…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q12 Did Ibn Katheer…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q13 Did Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali…
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Q14 Did Imaam as-Suyuti …
Do Tafweed? YES ___ or No ____
Do Taweel? YES ___ or No ____
Know the meanings of the Mutashaabihaat Attributes? YES ___ or No ____
Let us now look at the following list and see if there’s any scholars left for the Salafi to depend on:
Ibn Abbas
Mujaahid
Qataadah
Imaam Malik
Imaam ash-Shaafi
Imaam Ahmad b. Hanbal
Imaam Barbaahaari
Ibn Jareer at-Tabari
Imaam Qurtubi
Imaam Abdur Rahmaan al-Jawzi
Imaam Muwaffaq ud-Deen Ibn Qudaamah al-Maqdasi
Ibn Katheer
Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali
Imaam as-Suyuti
Do you have any scholars left?